1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,920 I have been known a number of times as to what happened to Project Magnet, so I prepared 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,300 the following statement which I would like to read. 3 00:00:18,300 --> 00:00:25,920 Project Magnet was authorized in December 1950 following a request made to the Canadian 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:32,760 Department of Transport by myself for permission to make use of the department's laboratory 5 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:40,000 and field facilities in a study of unidentified flying objects and physical principles which 6 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,200 might appear to be involved. 7 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,320 The program consisted of two parts. 8 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:53,440 The first part was the collecting of as much high quality data as possible, analyzing it 9 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,480 and where possible, drawing conclusions from it. 10 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:04,840 The second part consisted of a systematic questioning of all our basic concepts in the 11 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:11,720 hopes of turning up a discrepancy which might prove to be the key to a new technology. 12 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Unfortunately, the program was plagued by well-meaning but misguided journalists who 13 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:24,240 were looking for a spectacular copy or copy which could be turned to political account, 14 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,680 to such an extent that both those who were working on the project and the Department 15 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,760 of Transport found themselves in an embarrassed possession. 16 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:39,880 Consequently, when the Project Magnet report was made and permission sought to extend the 17 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:45,520 scope of the investigation through federal financial support, the decision was finally 18 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:52,280 made in 1954 that this would not be advisable in the face of the publicity from which the 19 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,400 whole project had suffered. 20 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:02,320 Project Magnet was officially dropped by the Department of Transport in October 1954. 21 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,280 Although the department indicated its willingness to permit the continued use of laboratory 22 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:13,680 facilities provided this could be done at no cost to the public treasury, the project 23 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:19,400 has been continuing under these conditions and to this extent may be said to have gone 24 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,400 underground. 25 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:26,720 The government of Canada are not participants in the project and not in any way responsible 26 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,160 for its conclusions. 27 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,040 The conclusions reached by Project Magnet and contained in the official report were 28 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:40,160 based on a rigid statistical analysis of citing reports and were as follows. 29 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:47,360 There is a 91% probability that at least some of the sightings are real objects of 30 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,360 unknown origin. 31 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:56,080 There is about 60% probability that these objects are alien vehicles, that is, alien 32 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,040 meaning not a earthly fabrication. 33 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:05,560 The conclusions based on studies of the basic physical concepts were as follows. 34 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:11,720 Many of our fundamental concepts are inherently ambiguous and quite a different philosophy 35 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,080 can be built up on the alternatives. 36 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:20,280 Several of these alternatives lead to much simpler arithmetic and presentations which 37 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,880 do not have to resort to patchwork corrections to make them all embracing. 38 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:31,880 Furthermore, some of our ideas with respect to fields and their behavior are wrong. 39 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Recent Project Magnet activities have dealt with following up any and all leads. 40 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,760 Many of these leads were dead ends, but a few were quite significant and well worth the 41 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,960 overall effort. 42 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:51,320 At the present time a definite pattern is emerging and the groundwork is being laid 43 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:56,680 for a new technology which may literally lead us to the stars. 44 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:03,680 I have signed this report and have offered it to a number of publications who wish to 45 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,600 clarify the status of Project Magnet. 46 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:14,880 One of the results of the publicity which Project Magnet received was that I received 47 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,280 a large number of communications from people all over the world. 48 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:26,280 Of course quite a number of these communications were definitely of the crank or crackpot class 49 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:33,880 but I did take the time and trouble to follow up every one which looked the least bit promising. 50 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:40,880 And as a result I did establish a number of connections which I found most profitable. 51 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:47,880 Quite a number of people, a surprising number in fact, claim to have made contact with the 52 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,240 space people in one way or another. 53 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:59,320 When following up the leads I tried not to let these people know of the existence of any 54 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:07,640 other group which had made contact, but I tried to act as a clearing house for the information 55 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,520 which was funneled in to me. 56 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:16,920 By asking judicious questions of each of the various groups I was able to obtain the 57 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:23,920 information which I could cross check against similar information obtained through other 58 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:24,920 sources. 59 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:30,720 As a matter of fact there are approximately a half dozen groups which have made contact 60 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,960 with the space people which I feel are authentic. 61 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:42,960 I've asked these people to answer certain questions concerning the life, philosophy and 62 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:50,960 science of the races which inhabit space and which live on the other planets and travel 63 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,400 from one planet to another. 64 00:05:53,400 --> 00:06:00,400 I found that practically all without exception of the answers have been consistent. 65 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:07,040 These people tell exactly the same story in almost the same words. 66 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:14,120 In some instances even the words are identical even though the manner in which they reach 67 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,120 me is totally different in the various cases. 68 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:25,120 The early history of the human race has been given to me on three separate occasions through 69 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:34,320 three separate contacts and in each case has been to all intents and purposes as nearly 70 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:41,200 identical as our own history books have recorded any historical fact. 71 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,200 I feel myself that these histories are authentic. 72 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Naturally I've asked quite a number of questions concerning the basic science, the mathematics 73 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,880 and the physics and chemistry which these people use. 74 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:05,960 I have come to the conclusion that it is quite different from what we call our science. 75 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:13,960 Their ideas of matter, atoms and so on is quite a bit different than ours and I must 76 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,280 say when understood it is ever somewhat simpler than ours. 77 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:24,880 We have built a mathematical monstrosity out of the universe and we are insisting that 78 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:31,880 all of our experimental data be squeezed and coerced to fit this mathematical monstrosity. 79 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:41,760 The basic science that I have been able to obtain from the space people is beautifully 80 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:42,760 simple. 81 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:49,760 As a matter of fact it is so simple that I am really surprised that we have passed it 82 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,160 by and never discovered it on our own. 83 00:07:54,160 --> 00:08:01,440 My contacts with the space people have only extended over the last two years and naturally 84 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:08,440 in two years and with very sporadic contacts not very much ground could be covered. 85 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:15,240 Consequently so far as the space people science is concerned I feel that I am very definitely 86 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,160 in the kindergarten. 87 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:24,160 However I do feel that I have sufficient fundamentals so that given the time and the 88 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:31,800 opportunity to do so I could proceed at least as far in their science as I have proceeded 89 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,920 in our own science in taking my basic engineering degrees. 90 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,920 These are the most important conditions which exist. 91 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,360 Though because there were爾 they did not seem to be any correct or extreme but they 92 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,520 were also effective. 93 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:56,520 And the coldми could afford to tell the wrong form of laugh no more than the coldman is 94 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,880 trying to do it but they were синchaic. 95 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:10,320 It is not easy to convince a lot of space peopleTape system. 96 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:17,320 about stories. Not in the electrical fabric, they are already lined up. The actual scale 97 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:26,320 is the direction of a somewhat skin-like response. Well, at this point, I think it is the unit 98 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:34,320 of the various fabric. In the electrical fabric, it is of course not the only solution and direction only. 99 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:43,320 The difficulty, of course, is in the question of materials. They can describe to me materials 100 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:51,320 which have certain characteristics, but I have usually a pretty hard time finding such materials 101 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:57,320 among those which we might have available. Because the materials having the characteristics 102 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:04,320 they describe as suitable for one job are used by us for a totally different purpose, 103 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:11,320 and sometimes the very characteristics which the space people say are desirable are the characteristics 104 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,320 that we consider less desirable, and in the production of the material we do our best to 105 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:25,320 suppress these characteristics. I would like to cite one example of this. In questioning 106 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:34,320 the methods of communication used in the case of one contact, I concluded that the actual 107 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:43,320 transmission was by means of a wave somewhat resembling a radio wave, but having all three 108 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:50,320 field components closed on themselves so that the wave itself would have no external effect, 109 00:10:50,320 --> 00:11:00,320 would be in fact an entity in itself very much like a photon. They inform me that this concept was 110 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:07,320 correct. I asked if I could make these waves and they said yes, I could do so with a comparatively 111 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:15,320 simple device. I asked them how this device was made and they described it to me as a matter of fact 112 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:22,320 they showed me some mental pictures of how it was done. Needless to say with the first opportunity 113 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:33,320 I hurried around and obtained some pieces of ferrite material, cores of ferrite and wound on them 114 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:39,320 a coil with the particular configuration that they described. In fact I wound up two coils 115 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:46,320 so that I could have the pair to play with. In operating in the lab I found that these coils 116 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:54,320 developed most peculiar properties, that the radiations from the transmitting coil would lock 117 00:11:54,320 --> 00:12:01,320 onto the receiving coil and it didn't matter then where the receiving coil was taken, the radiations 118 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:08,320 always followed it and did not diminish in intensity as you would expect of a radio wave. However, 119 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:15,320 the radio wave or these little waves that we were playing with did not always lock onto the 120 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:24,320 receiving coil which caused us a great deal of concern. Further inquiry however, gave us the 121 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:33,320 information that the waves were mentally controllable and that it was a case of mental manipulation 122 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,320 on our part, that is on the experimenter's part as to whether these waves would lock between 123 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:46,320 transmitter and receiver or whether they would not. A particular friend of mine here who has 124 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:56,320 the misfortune to be blind has displayed quite a number of unique mental capabilities. So I turned 125 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:03,320 one of these coils over to him to see what he could do with it. He very soon found that by using it 126 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:11,320 on his radio transmitter and by certain mental manipulations he was able to make the radio wave 127 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:18,320 come down just about where he wanted it. As a matter of fact in operating on the amateur band he was 128 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:26,320 able to move the reception point from one amateur in a distant city to another amateur less than a 129 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:35,320 mile away, much to the amazement of the two amateurs at the receiving end who figured that George had 130 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:44,320 the most marvelous type of antenna. I asked and obtained clearance from the space people to permit the 131 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:54,320 publication of information on this particular coil and I asked George if he would prepare the 132 00:13:54,320 --> 00:14:04,320 necessary document which he did and sent it into one of the amateur periodicals for publication. However, 133 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:12,320 the amateur periodical wished to test the coil before they published the article. Therefore, 134 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:19,320 they found that they were completely unable to obtain the core material in the size and dimensions 135 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:27,320 which were necessary in order to make the coil work. Trying other sizes and other types of ferrite, 136 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:36,320 the core was used to operate. I then tried with some other samples of ferrite which I had. I tried winding 137 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:42,320 the core on the other cores and I found that I couldn't make it work either. Apparently the 138 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:50,320 combination is very critical. We did find out however that a small core operated with a different 139 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:59,320 winding pitch and with higher power would function quite as well as the original coil. We are now working 140 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:05,320 out to find out what the limiting conditions are both insofar as the ferrite material is concerned and 141 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:15,320 the details of the winding. David Middleton, he is one of the directors of the ARRL, has the other coil, 142 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:22,320 the mate to the one which George LaFleur has at the present time. And so far as I know he has been 143 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:30,320 reasonably successful in making the coil perform although he says he has not been successful in duplicating it. 144 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:38,320 I was also quite curious about such machine elements as gear wheels and things like that which the space 145 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:48,320 people might use in their machinery. Again I was shown pictures of gears which are of a type very much 146 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:56,320 superior to anything which we have. Things that we could make if we took the trouble to do it. The gears 147 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:06,320 incidentally run absolutely quietly, no lubrication and as far as I could see no friction at all. The 148 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:13,320 bearings operate in the same manner as the gears themselves so that there is no friction in the bearings. The 149 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:23,320 power transmitting capabilities of the gears appear to be about the same as our own gears of high quality steel. 150 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:31,320 The structure needless to say is quite a bit different. I think myself that we would have very little trouble 151 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:38,320 building the gears with the materials that we have if we took the trouble to do the job and do it the way it would 152 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:45,320 have to be done if the gears are going to work at all. I was also much intrigued by the information which they gave me 153 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:55,320 regarding the television system which is used on some of the planets. The system reproduces in full color and with 154 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:02,320 the brilliancy which is quite a bit, a range of brilliancy that is, which is quite a bit better than our present black and 155 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:14,320 white. The transmission system is somewhat different than our own in that it transmits not a carrier but a reference 156 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:23,320 frequency from which the time scale at the receiving point is established. The principles of color 157 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:36,320 transmission are already known in our own basic physics and we refer to it as the Schoenckopf radiation phenomena. 158 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:50,320 The method of transmission is that the reference carrier carries a small modulation which corresponds to the sound and on one side of it 159 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:59,320 there is a second carrier which erases back and forth in the form of a frequency modulation to give the color 160 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:07,320 rendition and up and down in amplitude modulation to give the scale of brilliance. On the other side of the reference 161 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:16,320 carrier there is another carrier which is frequency modulated to give the X and Y, the X displacement and amplitude 162 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:29,320 modulated to give the Y displacement for the spot position on the screen. The scan is random in that it does not follow a pattern of 163 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:40,320 lines and interlaces the same as ours does. It follows the structure of the picture in that it spends a great deal more time on the 164 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:48,320 portion of the picture where the detail is the greatest and very little time scanning the background which has very little detail in it. 165 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:59,320 The actual scan is apparently determined by a potential gradient established on the photoelectric surface of the camera cube. 166 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:12,320 The system apparently is capable of operation between planets or between planets and spaceships which have different time scales 167 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:22,320 which is something we certainly cannot do with our own television system. In fact we can't even do it with the radio. I tried it. 168 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:36,320 We had an arrangement with one of the ships to try a radio circuit. The results were most unsatisfactory. We could hear their transmitter sweeping back and forth across our 169 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:48,320 receiver and they claimed they could hear our transmitter sweeping back and forth across their receiver. In rule the fact that the ships operate by manipulation of the 170 00:19:49,320 --> 00:20:01,320 electric magnetic and time fields naturally any thing which is located in the time field is going to be subject to the same variations in field as the rest of the ship. 171 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:14,320 And that would naturally be to a radio transmitter, the frequency of which being a time function would naturally vary along with all the other things on the ship which were subjected to the 172 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:29,320 changing time field. In asking about the principles of operation and propulsion of the ships and their general energy sources and things like that I find that the energy 173 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:47,320 sources are a straightforward conversion of a spin of matter into the form of energy spin and it's a straightforward transformation once one understands the structure of matter and the structure of energy. 174 00:20:48,320 --> 00:21:02,320 The manipulation of the three fields of course is something that we would find rather difficult to understand unless we do understand the true nature of the fields themselves. 175 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:25,320 The ships are merely propelled by a simple process of changing the three fields or rather the orientation of the three fields electric, magnetic and time fields to produce a resultant force in the direction in which they want the ship to go or in the direction necessary to offset the gravitational pull of the earth. 176 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:51,320 This sounds rather simple but from our point of view and our extremely limited knowledge of the structure of fields I think we would find it rather difficult to build equipment to either convert matter directly into energy or to provide forces to propel and lift space ships. 177 00:21:52,320 --> 00:22:13,320 However the principles are comparatively simple and I believe I understand them at least to the point where I can see the connection between the structure and behavior of fields and the net result in the production of energy and the support and propulsion of the ships. 178 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:21,320 Well naturally it's one thing to understand how a steam engine works and quite another thing to be able to build one. 179 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:39,320 I am quite sure that at this stage of the game we do not have on our materials which will allow us to manipulate these fields as we would have to manipulate them in order to do the job we want to do. 180 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:52,320 Now whether or not these materials exist on the earth or whether we can make them, as a matter of fact inquiring from some of the space people I am informed that they do make them. 181 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:57,320 They make them out of practically any kind of material that is available. 182 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:05,320 It's a rather complicated process but the materials themselves are very necessary for space travel. 183 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:32,320 I am informed that there are certain materials which are found on other planets and may be found on earth down close to the core of the earth, much below any of our deepest mining operations, which are naturally possible of the necessary polarization to produce forces in opposition to gravity. 184 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:51,320 However, through one contact with the space people I am informed that this material can be made, that is a material capable of polarization can be made from practically any of our ordinary everyday materials, which is what they do. 185 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,320 That's how they get their material which they polarize. 186 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:02,320 Our ideas incidentally regarding the structure of atoms are quite erroneous. 187 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:20,320 We visualize an atom as being a little hard core of some kind with a cloud of electrons in a rather random set of orbits flying rapidly around this core. 188 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,320 As a matter of fact, atoms are not at all built that way. 189 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:31,320 If one were to look for the core of an atom, I doubt very much if one would find it. 190 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:43,320 All one would find would be a center of activity or a region in which had certain geometrical properties with respect to an activity. 191 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,320 This region would display certain types of polarities. 192 00:24:49,320 --> 00:25:01,320 As a result of these polarities, electrons which again are nothing more or less than regions of activity centered on the point which we call the electron. 193 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,320 These electrons would stick on to the poles of this atom. 194 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:13,320 The core, if it had a fairly high atomic number, would have two inner poles. 195 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:23,320 Then it would, if these two poles enjoyed the companionship of two electrons, then there would develop outside of that eight more poles. 196 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:34,320 Which again, if they had the electrons stuck onto them, and if there were enough positive spin in the nucleus, 197 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:44,320 then it would develop a further eight poles and so on, and in that way would develop the structure of our atoms as we find them. 198 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:51,320 However, these poles aren't spaced in a random manner around the atom at all. 199 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,320 They're spaced according to a certain very definite pattern. 200 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:08,320 Which is due to the way the fields are arranged inside the nucleus, which is, of course, is made up of a very large number of unit spins. 201 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:21,320 I don't know whether this is comprehensible or not, but it is in line with the information which I have obtained from the space people. 202 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:33,320 I find that it is entirely consistent with the information, that is, the basic scientific observations which we have in our science. 203 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:41,320 It is not, however, consistent with the interpretations which have been placed on these observations, 204 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:54,320 and certainly not in line with many of the theories regarding the structure of nuclei and the forces which are associated with them. 205 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:02,320 I have used this analogy or simile before, and I think that it is very appropriate. 206 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:09,320 I visualize the human race somewhat as children. 207 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:16,320 They approach a tree, a tree of knowledge, and as they climb up the trunk of the tree, they learn. 208 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:22,320 When they reach a branch, they begin to specialize in a certain aspect of science. 209 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:29,320 As they crawl out on this branch, they learn more and more of this particular science. 210 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:35,320 I believe that is what has happened to our race in our search for knowledge. 211 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:47,320 We crawled out on the first branch we came to, and consequently, as we got farther out on the branch, we learned a great deal about the physics, the physics which we know today. 212 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,320 This physics, unfortunately, is only one branch of the tree. 213 00:27:53,320 --> 00:28:03,320 We have now progressed practically to the end of the branch, and we are industriously calibrating all the twigs which we find out at the end of the branch. 214 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:14,320 This is a very emeritus project, but it isn't going to tell us nearly as much as if we went back to the trunk, climbed up another short distance, 215 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:24,320 found another branch and crawled out on it, and learned some more about basic science, which is quite different from the physics which we know today, 216 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:32,320 but not inconsistent with it since these are all branches of the same tree. 217 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:38,320 I am in the process of learning something about another branch on this tree. 218 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:47,320 I am quite satisfied that this branch is just as valid as the branch on which our physical science is built. 219 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:59,320 Naturally, as I said before, I am in the kindergarten, and it will probably be some time before I graduate from the kindergarten even into the first grade, but it's lots of fun in the meantime. 220 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:17,320 I hope this little chat will possibly bring to you my position with respect to the space people and my relationship with the official Canadian project, Magnet. 221 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:32,320 I have not asked much of this information concerning the contacts with the space people to be official government people because they definitely did not seem to be interested in receiving this information, 222 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:39,320 and they seem to be a great deal of doubt in their mind whether or not the information itself was authentic. 223 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:51,320 Consequently, I am proceeding entirely on my own, and with the help of a few friends here who are willing to study this new physics, 224 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:58,320 I believe we will be able to lay the foundation at least for something really worthwhile. Thank you.